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I have been learning things about bread!

If you are an experienced bread baker, most of these things will probably not be news to you. Some of them are not /recent/ news to me but I still find them interesting.

What I have been learning recently is about tenderness, crispness, and longevity.

My normal go-to loaf is Oatmeal Toasting and Sandwich Bread. It's got milk and honey in it, it's got whole wheat flour in it, it's tender, it's got a small, fine crust, and it's great for toasting.

But I was making baked brie, and that needs a bread that can hold up to dipping.

(this, which I ended up using, is not really quite french bread. But it works).

Take away most of the sugar and all of the fat, and you end up with a crisper loaf. Increase hydration and reduce kneading in the proofing stage, and you end up with bubbles in the bread. These things I knew, but it was neat to see them in process.

What I didn't know but learned fast was that if you take away all that fat, the bread goes stale much, much faster. That was a learning experience!

And it did, by the way, work great dipped in a drippy baked brie with fig spread. And just as great with fancy butter, toasted on top the wood stove.

Next up? Brioche!

Date: 2016-01-27 03:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thnidu
Mmmm!

Date: 2016-01-27 03:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clare_dragonfly
Mmm, bread.

I don't see whole wheat flour in that bread recipe; do you replace some/all of the bread flour with whole wheat?

Date: 2016-01-28 12:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clare_dragonfly
Ah, I meant the sandwich loaf, sorry! Mmm, whole wheat.

Date: 2016-01-27 07:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] inventrix
*ears perk* So it's the milk fats that make the bread softer? (I usually make a very, very basic bread, which as you can guess comes out pretty crusty, like French or Italian bread.)

I've been toying with experimenting further but I haven't actually gotten around to doing it. Howeverrr, I should point out that I used to use honey in my initial dough and eventually stopped and it made pretty much no difference to the flavor and texture. Unless you're adding quite a lot of sugar, all it really does is help kickstart the yeast.

Edited (sorry for all the edits, I cannae read) Date: 2016-01-27 07:04 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-01-27 09:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] inventrix
...That is quite a lot, yeah. I put a third of a cup in the muffin recipe I've been using.

**edit: That's a chemical rising agent, not yeast, too. I can't remember how much the challah had, I should check.

**edit2: That's about how much the challah has, yeah. So, definitely on the sweet bread side of things for me. (Like most commercial sandwich breads...)
Edited Date: 2016-01-28 12:31 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-01-27 08:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] novel_machinist
oh I love bread

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